Carrie Prejean Boller comes face to face with Perez Hilton — the judge whose question on same-sex marriage led to one of the most controversial moments in Miss USA history. What began as a single on-stage question sparked a national conversation after Carrie publicly affirmed God’s design for marriage — a conviction that she thinks cost her the crown. Now, years later, they come together to talk about truth, courage, and forgiveness. Hear this raw and redemptive conversation in E265 of The Lila